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(October 20,1965)
You
have put up a good fight, both in the south and in
the north. People the world over are supporting you,
including those who have awakened and some of those
who have not yet awakened. The present world is not
one of peace and tranquillity, but that is not because
you Vietnamese or we Chinese have invaded the U.S.
Not
long ago the Japanese newspapers Asahi Shimbun
and Yomiuri Shimbun carried several reports
sent back from South Vietnam by Japanese correspondents.
American papers called these reports unjust, thus
instigating a debate. What I have mentioned is not
the Akahata of the Japanese Communist Party,
but Japan's bourgeois newspapers. It can be seen that
public opinion is unfavorable to the U.S. Demonstrations
by the American people, mainly the intellectuals at
present, against the Vietnamese policy of the U.S.
government have been developing.
However,
these are external conditions; settlement of the issue
still depends on your fighting. Of course, it can
also be achieved through negotiation. There were negotiations
in Geneva, but the Americans didn't keep their word
afterward. We likewise had negotiations with Chiang
Kai-shek and the U.S. Rusk once said that the U.S.
and China have held the most numerous negotiations.
But we stick to one point, that is, the U.S. must
withdraw from Taiwan; other questions aren't difficult
to solve. The U.S. doesn't agree. The ten years of
negotiations between China and the U.S. still harp
on the same issue. We will not concede on this. The
U.S. suggested exchanging visits of a press delegation
with us. It said we could start with minor things,
then solve the major questions. We insisted that we
ought to begin with the major questions; the minor
ones will not be difficult.
Formerly
you evacuated you armed forces from the south in accordance
with the Geneva agreement. In consequence, the enemy
there killed at
random,
so you reengaged in armed struggle. At the beginning,
you put political struggle before armed struggle.
We agreed with you. At the second stage you carried
on political struggle in parallel with armed struggle.
This we also agreed with. At the third stage you put
armed struggle first with political struggle as auxiliary.
We further agreed with you. As I see it, as the enemy
escalates the war, you escalate your fighting as well.
You may have a little difficulty in the next two or
three Years, but it's hard to say; things may not
be this way. At any rate, this factor must be taken
into consideration. If you have made all preparations,
you won't be too far from the original estimate, even
if the most difficult situation occurs. Isn't that
fine? Therefore, what is basic is: One, strive for
the best and two, prepare for the worst.
You
may refer to the experience of Algeria. When the war
there was going into its fourth or fifth year, some
leaders began to worry about it. Prime Minister Abbas
came to me, saying that Algeria had a rather small
population, only ten million, among whom one minion
had already been killed; the enemy maintained an army
of 800,00 men, while their regular army was composed
of merely 30,000 or 40,000-fewer than 100,000 men
even if the guerrilla forces were included. I told
them then that the enemy would surely collapse, and
the population would grow if they persevered till
victory. The French troops withdrew after negotiations,
and they have now completed the withdrawal, leaving
but a few naval bases. In Algeria it was a national
democratic revolution led by the bourgeoisie. Both
you and we are Communists, and concerning the questions
of mobilizing the masses and carrying out a people's
war, Algeria is different from you and us.
Some
specific questions in connection with a people's war
that I mentioned in my writings are affairs of 10
or 20 years ago. You are meeting new situations at
present, so a lot of your ways of dealing with them
are and ought to be different from ours in the past.
We learned how to fight step by step and frequently
suffered defeat in the beginning; it was not so smooth
as for you.
I
haven't yet taken note of what questions you are going
to discuss with the U.S. I heed only how to fight
the Americans and how to expel them. You may negotiate
with them at a certain time, but you ought not to
lower your tone; always keep it at a high key. You
must be prepared to be deceived by the enemy.
We
support you to win final victory. Faith in victory
is derived from fighting, from struggle. For instance,
the Americans are subject to attack and this experience
can be gained only through fighting them. The Americans
are subject to attack, I said, and they can be defeated.
We must break down that sort of myth, that the Americans
cannot be attacked or defeated. We both have had a
lot of experience. Both you and we fought the Japanese;
you also fought the French, and now you are fighting
the Americans.
The
Americans have trained and educated the Vietnamese
people, and they have likewise educated us and people
the world over. In my opinion, it would be no good
without the Americans; it is necessary to have this
teacher. One must learn from the Americans if one
wants to defeat them. The works of Marx didn't teach
us how to fight the Americans, nor did Lenin's books.
We chiefly learn from the Americans.
The
Chinese people and the peoples of the whole world
are supporting you. The more friends, the better.
*This
is the major part of Mao Zedong's talk with a Party
and government delegation from the Democratic Republic
of Vietnam.
(From
the verbatim record)
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